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mwanakijiji
11-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Daily Mail

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There was a time, in the early days of their relationship, when Natalia Martin and her husband Alex made love every night. When they married ten years ago, Natalia took pride in keeping the romance alive.

Even after the arrival of their first child, the 35-year-old charity fundraiser made a superhuman effort to keep the spark going, swiftly shedding her baby weight and slipping into silky lingerie as soon as their baby son was asleep in his cot.

But that was almost nine years ago. Today, the Martins' marriage is effectively sexless.
Can a sexless marriage survive?

Long working hours has made sexless marriages an epidemic. But can a marriage survive without physical intimacy?

The arrival of a second baby, combined with the pressures of her 34-year-old husband's engineering career, a hefty mortgage and a stressful house move to Birmingham have driven a wedge between the couple which they fear will never be overcome.

As Natalia puts it: 'Somehow, normal life has got in the way. Alex and I are like the proverbial ships that pass in the night. By the time we fall into bed, we're just too shattered for sex.'

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Their story is, of course, not uncommon. In fact, it is likely to sound all too familiar to millions of busy professional couples, especially those with children.

An estimated one in 20 British couples share a sexless marriage, and the end of the 'honeymoon period' has long been something of a bittersweet joke among couples who have been married for several years.

Even Madonna's ill-fated marriage to Guy Ritchie was, according to friends, sexless for the 18 months leading up to its collapse last month. The key question, of course, and the one which is being quietly asked by couples who feel that their sex lives are virtually non-existent, is whether or not a marriage without sex can survive.

Janice Hiller, a consultant clinical psychologist specialising in sexual relationships, says it's unlikely.

'If both husband and wife get on well in other ways and there is no distress over the lack of intimacy, then that's fine,' she explains. 'But for most people, sex is intrinsic to marriage.

'And if one party wants sex and the other doesn't, it can be terribly damaging. Typically, the rejected spouse will feel unloved, unattractive or neglected.'

What is curious is that according to Natalia, she and her husband adore each other.

They also find each other attractive. Neither of them has let themselves go during their ten-year marriage. Indeed, photographs taken when they first met in Birmingham in 1995 show they have barely changed at all.

'I'm as attracted to him today as I was all those years ago, and he says he feels the same about me,' says Natalia. 'We both had other relationships before we met, but the magnetism between us was intense. Alex is incredibly handsome. He has a gorgeous, muscular body, a beautiful face and is unfailingly kind.'

Natalie Martin at her Birmingham home

Natalia Martin's stressful life leaves her too tired for sex with her husband

She describes their early sexual relationship as 'amazing', and when the pair married in 1998, their ardour remained as strong as ever. 'We were so in tune with one another,' she says.

'When we had our first child a year later and I saw what a wonderful, hands-on dad he was, I found that so attractive. While I was pregnant, I'd read stories about women who had babies and then went off sex with their husbands, and I was determined that would not happen to us.'

Once she'd recovered from the birth Natalia made a concerted effort to make sure she and Alex still felt like a young couple in love.

'I was fortunate that the baby weight melted away while I was breastfeeding, and soon my figure was a size eight again,' she adds. 'Our sex life didn't suffer at all, despite being new parents.'

But in a scenario that will ring true for many, that all changed when baby number two came along in July 2006, followed by a stressful house move.

'My second son breastfed constantly - but this time the weight didn't fall off,' says Natalia, who went up to a size 16 while pregnant and was a 12 after the birth. 'I was very sore from the birth, and exhausted from the constant feeding.

'Then, just a week after the birth, Alex signed a deal to take on premises to launch his own engineering business. It was a time of immense stress and upheaval. We got into a habit of not making love, and we didn't deal with it. We'd make love once every three months at best - that's just four time a year.'

Matters worsened last year when they bought a 100-year-old house that needed renovating. As their living costs rose, Alex worked six or seven days a week and Natalia was forced to take a part-time job as a charity fundraiser to cover soaring food, fuel and energy bills. Juggling the job with managing a home and children has left her exhausted.

'It's draining,' she says. 'I feel my daily workload has doubled, and it's causing resentment between us. We never used to argue, but these days we do.

'I'd be happy if I was a full-time mum and housewife. I'm exhausted at the end of each day - yet society expects that women should still have the energy to walk into the bedroom wearing sexy high heels.'

Since 2006, the only intimacy in the Martins' marriage has been a stolen kiss or a touch of the hand.

'I can't believe this is happening to us,' says Natalia. 'I have worried whether he might have an affair because we don't make love any more. What if our marriage remains sexless and we end up two strangers with nothing left to hold us together?'

According to psychologist Janice Hiller, Natalia's story is far from unusual, although many women are too ashamed to voice their concerns.

'Most marriages go through periods when sex is less frequent than normal, typically after a major event such as having children, moving house, suffering bereavement, or changing jobs,' she says.

'But couples need to acknowledge the importance of sex - planning it and looking forward to it the way they would a holiday or a night out.'
Natalia Martin with husband Alex ten years ago when they made love every night

Natalia Martin with husband Alex ten years ago when they made love every night

It's a scenario that Ruth Hallam, 35, a psychologist from Bath, has played a million times over in her head. Though she has been with husband Chris, 35 and a paediatrician, for eight years and married for two, they haven't made love since just after their wedding in July 2006.

'I desperately want to have sex with my husband, but he just isn't interested - although he maintains that he loves me dearly and that it's sex that he's gone off, not me,' she says.

It's a difficult equation to comprehend, and one that has left Ruth feeling confused, lonely and frustrated in equal measure.

'We went through the usual honeymoon period when we first started dating in 2000,' she says. 'Our sex life was good, but inevitably we settled into normalityafter about two years and had sex about once every three weeks.

mwanakijiji
11-07-2008, 05:03 PM
'By the time we got married, though, we were only making love every few months. Although it had begun to trouble me, our relationship was so good in every other way that it wasn't a big enough problem for me to question whether we should marry. I suppose I'd hoped it would sort itself out.

'But, increasingly, it would be me who'd initiate sex, only for Chris to say he was too tired or not in the mood.

'Since we're both medical professionals, people might assume that we're better placed to resolve this kind of issue, but we're no different to any other couple. A problem is painful to discuss when it's directly affecting you.'

In the end, Ruth challenged her husband on the eve of their second wedding anniversary.

'The floodgates opened and I confronted him about our sexless marriage,' she recalls. 'That's when he said he loves me deeply but that the sexual urge in him has switched off.

'I was devastated and asked him whether he has felt attracted to anyone else, or even if there are female celebrities he fantasised about. He said he simply wasn't interested in sex, full stop.

'I can't rationalise how Chris can love me so much but doesn't want me. I've questioned so many things: Is he gay? Is he having an affair? He insists not.

'We both work long hours and have stressful jobs, but I don't think that's an excuse for not trying to rectify our sex life. Chris takes medication for mild depression and I know one of the side-effects can be loss of libido. But he isn't even willing to tackle the problem. I suggested counselling or sex therapy, but he was horrified.

'I asked whether he'd enjoyed sex with me previously, and he said he did. He even pays me compliments. But I don't understand how he can say I look lovely yet not even want to kiss me.

'We both keep fit and I always make sure I wear clothes I know Chris likes, and take care of my hair and make-up. I've certainly never let myself go. I'm still very attracted to Chris, although I find it painful to think about that now.

'There's only so much rejection I can take, so I no longer even try to initiate sex. But if I watch Chris getting dressed, buttoning up his shirt, I long to have that intimacy with him again. I feel very lonely, and at times overwhelmed that I'm in a marriage where my husband doesn't want me physically.'

In desperation, Ruth has joined a forum on the internet, where she says she has found comfort from talking to women who have similar experiences to share. But such tales have also left her concerned about what will become of her marriage.

'Women on the forum tend either to have an affair or leave their husbands because they can't solve their sexless marriages,' she says. 'I can't think of doing either because my marriage vows mean so much - even though our relationship is how I imagine it to be when you're a couple in your 60s, not 35.

'There is a man at work whom I find attractive and he pays me attention. It's a relief to be reminded of how that feels, and to have a bit of a fantasy that I can escape into. I only hope I can manage these feelings so that I don't end up betraying my husband.'

Lack of sex is also taking its toll on Kathryn Butler, 37, who owns a fashion boutique and agency, and lives in Durham with her 35-year-old husband Neil, who works for the Ministry of Defence, and their four-year-old son.

While she claims that she and her husband are still very much in love, the couple haven't had sex since their son was born four years ago.

'Sex was a non-starter once we became parents,' Kathryn says. 'At first, it was a case of me getting over the birth, but our sex life never recovered and now it's a constant worry.

'We were together for three years before we conceived our son and had an amazing sex life. Even after the initial honeymoon period, when we couldn't keep our hands off one another, we still had sex three or four times a week.

'Not having sex is an issue that we have talked about a lot. We even went to a local hotel one night a couple of years ago to try to get things going again, but it ended up feeling staged and unnatural. It's almost reached a stage where I can't imagine we will ever have sex again.

'I work six days a week and Neil works long hours. We're exhausted when we finally make it to bed at night, and sex is the last thing either of us feels like. We are still affectionate during the day, with cuddles and hugs, but we don't manage more than a kiss goodnight before we are sound asleep.'

It is clear that all these women - and many others like them - are not happy with the situation they find themselves in.

Janice Hiller points out: 'Sex usually develops out of emotional closeness, and a lack of it can be catastrophic for a marriage.'

Kathryn admits: 'I feel less attractive as a result of not having sex. Neil still tells me if I look lovely, but he doesn't make the flirtatious comments he used to.

'Neil has been really affected by the lack of sex, too, and we both feel rejected by the other. I love Neil dearly, and I know that he loves me and that neither of us would cheat on one another.

'I desperately want another baby, so we'll have to have make love again at some point - but the sad truth is that for now, it's just become normal not to have sex.'

Natalia Martin echoes these sentiments: 'When our sex life was good, we felt so connected - as though we could take on the world together. Now, without sexual intimacy, I feel ugly and unattractive.

'We're going to have to do something drastic to change our relationship. We can't afford romantic weekends away right now, but we do need to start organising baby-sitters so we can spend time alone.

'We both know we need to regain the intimacy of a sexual relationship before it's too late and we end up getting divorced.'

It's easy to understand her desperation: whether she can find a solution after all this time is another matter.

Question:
Is this even possible?

Kepa
11-08-2008, 03:12 AM
I have different opinions on this matter,

I have heard a lot from women with almost same problem in their marriages, I heard a lot of their efforts to solve it.

What buffers me up is the women’s ability to quickly stench the problem and take courage to open up and share with their husbands or psychotherapist, Very few men if they are there will ever do that. This challenges creative writing on sex education and its nature.

Different writers argue that, a man is more likely to be stimulated, or have more feeling and attracted to sex more often than a woman. A woman can stay longer without sex if she is not stimulated than a man. Why then so much complain stories from women. Something might be wrong somewhere

It is very possible to work on a sexless marriage and be renewed to normal sex life. However I bank more on the men’s consent on solving the problem, it should not be sex in marriage to just thrill a wife. Men should think it in another slant, which is sex for body health and therefore bright and active brain which help them perform daily duties even more effectively.

I don’t believe on marriage without sex, especially Christian marriage where there is only one wife.

I don’t believe in sexless marriages, when the two partners spend enough time together everyday, at least (7-10 hrs each day).

I don’t believe in sexless marriage, when one part is still in need of it and wants it so much.

When partners stop making love (sex) to each other, it means there is nothing like marriage is still there, and worse when the partners stop completely even talking about sex for 2-3 months. Believe it, No Love, No Sex, No Marriage exists.


KK

My more
11-29-2008, 11:47 PM
Hivi kwani talaka bei gani???? Nauliza tu:):):)

duru langu
11-30-2008, 01:43 AM
Hivi kwani sex=Love=Marriage?
Au inamaana hivi vitu vitatu ni sawa na mafiga matatu?
Je haiwezekani kuwepo na mafiga mawili tu ambayo ni muhimu
zaidi na kisha figa moja likawa la kushikizia tu.
Nadhani mafiga ya Love na Marriage ni muhimu kisha hilo la sex likawa la kushikizia tuu
hasa hasa umri unavyozidi kwa wahusika. Nadahni kadiri umri unavyoongezeka na majukumu
yanavyoongezeka basi na idadi ya sex inapungua.

My more
11-30-2008, 04:00 PM
Hivyo visingizio vya majukumu tumeshavizoea, harafu huyo huyo mwenye majukumu unakuta amebaka katoto ka primary school, LOL

duru langu
12-01-2008, 01:10 AM
Hivyo visingizio vya majukumu tumeshavizoea, harafu huyo huyo mwenye majukumu unakuta amebaka katoto ka primary school, LOL

Au asiye na majukumu "kabakwa" na serengeti boys lol

My more
12-07-2008, 02:29 AM
Au asiye na majukumu "kabakwa" na serengeti boys lol

Ulishawahi kusikia wapi mwanamume akabakwa? ni vile hapa upenuni, ningekuelekeza:):)

Mr. XXX
12-07-2008, 07:01 PM
Miye nilishawahi kubakwa na nanny wetu!! labda ndiyo maana akili zangu ziko fyatu fyatu hivi. Ila katika huu utu uzima sitajali sana nikibakwa tena!

Kepa
12-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Hivi kwani talaka bei gani???? Nauliza tu:):):)

Utawapa talaka wangapi?, Bahati mbaya talaka haitengenezi tatizo bali inaahirisha tatizo. Utakutana na tatizo hilo hilo few days to come kwa mtu mwingine.

Kepa
12-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Miye nilishawahi kubakwa na nanny wetu!! labda ndiyo maana akili zangu ziko fyatu fyatu hivi. Ila katika huu utu uzima sitajali sana nikibakwa tena!

Huu sasa utani MR. XXX, hayo usemayo hayawezekani kabisa.!

duru langu
12-08-2008, 12:46 AM
Huu sasa utani MR. XXX, hayo usemayo hayawezekani kabisa.!

Yanawezekana na yametokea bongo.

Kwani haukusikia ile kesi iliyotokea Songea ambapo mama mmoja kamshitaki
msaidizi wake wa ndani (dada) kwa kumpaka mwanaye wa miezi 9?

Hata Mikumi ilishawahi kutokea songombingo ambala dada mmoja
alipelekwa kwa pilato kwa kubaka mvulana wa skuli ya msingi!

My more
12-08-2008, 03:31 AM
wote unaowataja hapa ni minor (under 18), kwa hiyo inawezekana kabisa kubakwa. Kinachonitia kisebusebu, ni pale jamaa mtu mzima anapoweza kudai kabakwa wakati aaaah basi ngoja nikae kimya

Kepa
12-12-2008, 02:56 AM
My More , kuna baadhi ya tarehe kichwa yako inafanya kazi nzuri sana:)

My more
12-12-2008, 10:37 AM
My More , kuna baadhi ya tarehe kichwa yako inafanya kazi nzuri sana:)

Ndiyoo, hasa karibu na weekend na weekend yenyewe.:D:D:D

lemunyake
01-05-2009, 02:54 PM
My viewpoint , there is NOTHING like MARRIAGE Bila Sex . Hata kwenye Bibilia tunaambiwa you should not be depriving one another of the marital due i.e sex.Ingawa Sex is not the most important nakubali kuwa ni mojawapo ya mafiga muhimu sana katika married life. NO SEX = NO MARRIAGE

My more
01-06-2009, 02:31 AM
My viewpoint , there is NOTHING like MARRIAGE Bila Sex . Hata kwenye Bibilia tunaambiwa you should not be depriving one another of the marital due i.e sex.Ingawa Sex is not the most important nakubali kuwa ni mojawapo ya mafiga muhimu sana katika married life. NO SEX = NO MARRIAGE

Haswaaa naunga mkono hoja.

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